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Sunday, January 27, 2008
posted by Devon Murphy | 2:53 AM | permalink
Romney's position on Iraq Benchmarks and Timetables, in April of 2007:

"There's no question that the president and (Iraqi) Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn't be for public pronouncement. You don't want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're going to be gone."


Clearly, any competent military commander will have a way to measure progress and success. To execute any operation without clearly defined goals, benchmarks, and timetables is to be flying blind. Yet, for the reasons Romney mentioned, it's important that such a plan not be public information for the enemy.

McCain is now attacking Romney for supporting of private benchmarks and timetables. This is galling in that McCain knows as well as anyone why such private benchmarks currently exist, and will continue to exist with any future operations. And in characteristic form, McCain goes on to smear Romney's position as advocating for withdrawal from Iraq.

"If we surrender and wave a white flag, like Senator Clinton wants to do, and withdraw, as Governor Romney wanted to do, then there will be chaos, genocide, and the cost of American blood and treasure would be dramatically higher."


Were this simply a case of McCain misrepresenting Romney on an issue, it would be any other day of the week. But consider that at this time last year, McCain embraced the very same thing for which he is attacking Romney today. To quote from the article:

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., one of the most stalwart supporters of the war in Iraq, said Thursday that he might propose that the Iraqi government meet certain benchmarks for the United States to continue its engagement.
...
Asked what penalty would be imposed if Iraq failed to meet his benchmarks, he said: "I think everybody knows the consequences. Haven't met the benchmarks? Obviously, then, we're not able to complete the mission. Then you have to examine your options."


And to put the final shock and awe on this already remarkable display of hypocrisy, what is McCain's response to Team Mitt's demand for an apology on the misleading attacks?

"I think the apology is owed to the young men and women serving this nation in uniform, that we will not let them down in hard times or good. That is who the apology is owed to."


Indeed, apologies are due. To the Romney campaign, for knowingly distorting his position. To the public, for turning a military strategy debate into "gotcha" politics for McCain's political advantage. And to the American soldiers whom McCain is using as pawns in his decade long quest for the Presidency. Disgraceful.

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McCain knows it's nonsense garbage he's spouting and it's intended to draw a respsonse. If he can pull Romney into a debate over war details then it's time spent not talking about the ecoonomy.



John McCain is one Repub Candidate that I could never support - if he gets the nomination. NEVER. I cannot vote for a man who lies as good as the Dems. I'll vote for Barak! At least he seems like a sincere liberal!!



I guess I am of the opinion that McCain’s attack is the second lowest point for any candidate on the Republican side (Huck’s invoking of religions bigotry, feigned ignorance, and publicized apology being the lowest). McCain likely knows his statements are dishonest. He even likely knows that he will be called on it. But if the man who thinks interest rates should be 0% can divert attention from his colossal ignorance he will be better off than if Floridians vote based on the economy.

I have not been one who had no respect for McCain. I have merely thought he was not the best candidate especially for the Republican ticket. Today, I have not lost all respect for McCain, but this trick is very low and reflects negatively upon him as a person and as a candidate.

That being said, I would vote for McCain over Obama because of their positions. Both are too liberal, but Obama is way too liberal. Obama is a compelling candidate of hope, but he his wrong on so many issues.

McCain could win by being liberal on so much that he has crossover support, but I think such would be a blow to the Republican Party. I also think it quite possible that McCain would lose because he cannot out liberal Obama or Clinton, but he seems willing to depart from conservative principles enough to alienate conservatives.

I hope:
Romney wins Florida, McCain’s candidacy is damaged, and Romney enters super Tuesday as the front runner (perhaps even the anointed one). I think a brokered convention could be bad for Romney (and the party). And of course I think McCain as the nominee would be bad for the party.

Thanks, TOm



Still could never vote for McCain..... If we're gonna have a liberal POTUS - let the Dems get the credit for it. It could very well be a very galvanizing 4 years for the Republicans to finally rally around a true conservative. Let's hope it doesn't come to a vote between Obama or McCain. Let's hope it's our man Mitt!!




Monday, July 30, 2007
posted by Kyle Hampton | 1:07 PM | permalink
Here's what Romney said about Iraq back in June at the CNN debate. Most of the question is the ever-present handwringing about "if you knew then, what you know now...". However, during his answer Romney says that, looking forward, the right thing to do is to stabilize Iraq.


Then comes today's op-ed in the NY Times from former critics of the handling of the war saying that the troop surge is working and that Iraq is stabilizing. Score one for Romney.

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i think it's important to point out here that romney didnt even have a position on the surge in all of 2006. "I'm not going to weigh in, I'm a governor" i believe were his words.



To The Dud,
How many Governors did weigh in on the surge in the Summer of 2006?
Why would they?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at July 31, 2007 at 10:45 AM  


what governors?

Governors that were planning on running for Commander In Chief just *days* later.

Perhaps even governors who were NOT planning on running. Say, Tom Ridge for example.



Dude,
And just "days" later, when he had officially started his exploritory commitee, he immediately started endorsing the troop surge. There are many things that Governors decide are not prudent to comment on, as they concern national interests, not states What exactly is your point?



"Days later"?

Was that before or after he declared himself a lifelong hunter?

My point: Romney has a terrible time going on record.



Dude-

I can appreciate your need to find someone to criticize considering McCain's already-imploded campaign. However, your disconnected, incoherent arguments are unpersuasive.


Paraphrasing:
You: Mitt did "A".
Response: "A" is reasonable.
You: Deflection. Mitt did "B".


Do you not see how silly your approach is? Once your initial argument is discredited you act as though you didn't notice and you skip to something entirely unrelated. Tell McCain hi for me by the way. I'm sure he'll have time to see you personally considering how few followers are still hanging around. :)



ok, slick-willy i'll try again.

People don't trust Romny to handle Iraq. Less than half of REPIBLICANS do. He goes around the country saying he's not going to weigh in one day, then he supports the troops the next, then he's flexible a few months after that. Is that a formula to garner trust? Maybe in the Romney camp, but nowhere else.

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=28252

+8% more Republicans trust Thompson
+18% more Republicans trust McCain
+26+ more Republicans trust Giuliani

McCain and Giuliani have a net gain of more than 20% of independants. Why don't independants trust Romney? How can he possibly hope to win when 1) his own party doesn't trust him, and 2) swing voters don't trust him.

Explain that. You can't. Nor do i expect you to even try.

Nice of you to throw out the red herring on McCain when you accuse me of the same. But I'll respond to that one. Unlike what you did to me:

McCain's campaign hasn't imploded. The latest poll out (NBC/WSJ) has McCain in a statistical tie with Thompson for second. Romney (again) can barely break single digits. He's had that problem for quite some time now right?

Lets find out how legit people feel Romney is after he's forced to double funding of the campaign to a whopping 20 million this next quarter.

One last question, where is Romney on embryonic stem cell research?
In 2005 he was in favor of the US House bill which federally funded embryo's. But in the MSNBC debate he said he would NOT fund them. Then the Palm Beach Post says this:
On embryonic stem cell research, Romney said the place where he draws a bright line and says no is when there is an embryo created solely for the purpose of research and destruction.

3 positions on stem cells, all of which are after his so-called pro-life conversion. ouch.



one more thing.

Don't revel in your delusion of a McCain implosion. All the polls show that McCain's supporters' second choice is Giuliani and then Thompson. About 1 in 8 McCain voters seem to be willing to vote for Mitt as a second choice. A strong McCain HELPS Romney.

Just let that sink in....



Dud, Why are you here? Nobody thinks you have a reasonable or valid point.
In fact, you come across as something entirely different.
You will lure none of us away from Mitt, you will make no friends and you will gain no admirers.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at August 2, 2007 at 7:17 AM  


Dude-

My comments about McCain were no red herring. The point of your posts (Romney's position on Iraq)had already been defeated. I was merely pointing out your poor argumentation. My comments about McCain were for kicks. Plus, they were true.
(1) He has no $ and he will gain less in the future since most analysts think a McCain nomination is impossible now.
(2) The polls you mention are almost irrelevant. Literally half of America doesn't even know who Mitt Romney is yet. They will before the primaries begin though--thus, national polls at this point have little importance. McCain's numbers are not due to real support--name recognition is king in the summer & of little value in January where national polls are concerned. McCain has imploded. Analysts know it. Informed bloggers know it. McCain will wake up soon.
(3) In Iowa, NH, Nevada, Michigan (where people know who Mitt is) he polls very well. In IA & NH, he's gone from a distant 3rd to a strong 1st position.
(4) Hardcore McCain supporters hate Mitt because he is the enemy--the guy who owned McCain at his own strategy, sucking up the O2 from Iowa & NH & the $ from everywhere else. These people (very few indeed) will never vote for Mitt out of resentment. Other McCain supporters go for him because they know his name best & liked him in 2000. These uninformed types naturally will then choose other names they know (Rudy, Fred) as their 2nd preference. Again, they don't know Mitt yet.
(5) The flip-flop tag is oh so old. Yes, Mitt flipped on abortion & has been very direct about it. Otherwise he has not.
Stem Cell: Was told the embryonic stem cell research would involve using frozen, about to be thrown away, embryos & he thought it was good to use them. They then wanted to create new embryos in a lab to test on. He said no. He's had one position only--embryonic stem cell research is ok in and of itself, but creating embryos to that end is not.
Gays: For rights, against re-defining marriage.
Guns: For 2nd Amendment, against weapons that outmatch police (assault rifles, automatics)
Twist it as you like, rational people see through your weak argumentation.
(6) Mitt's approach is usually data driven. He supports the surge because it looks like a good strategy, but his future commitment is smartly based on the data they bring back in September & December. This is an intelligent approach. If Bush had done the same we may have done the surge 3 years ago instead of hanging w/the bad strategy we've had. McCain's "last man standing" approach is naive and unreasonable.
(7) All people change their mind. Rudy's current positions compared to his actions as mayor are amazing. Astronomical changes compared to Mitt. McCain has changed his mind less, but he's FLAT OUT WRONG: immigration, campaign finance, gang of 14, etc.



Okay, thedude...

You say, "All the polls show that McCain's supporters' second choice is Giuliani and then Thompson."...

Well, first of all, just how many polls are there that poll what peoples second choice AFTER McCain is? You say "ALL" of them say a certain thing, but I can't imagine there being too many asking that question... in fact, I've never seen ONE.

Obviously, your other poll references are referring to the national polls where, true, Romney is technically in 4th place... or 3rd if you consider one of the options isn't even running.

Of course pragmatically, no one has come close to considering that Mitt Romney is out of the race or that he is even in the second tier even based on his "barely double digit" score in the polls. Why? Trajectory, my friend, trajectory.

Rudy is in first place. Rudy also started the race as a celebrity who's grin the entire world recognized. The fact that he is leading at the start shouldn't surprise people. What should surprise people is that Republicans consider him a viable candidate even though compared to any of the Democratic front runners, he has a poor showing, and that he couldn't even concieve of beating a hated outsider like Hillary for his home state's Senate seat.

John McCain came from a similar position. While I wouldn't call him a celebrity, it is clear that he has been a popular choice for republicans for a long time. Not popular enough in the past to get too far, but certainly well known. So to start near the top of the heap for him should also come as no surprise.

Freddy, once again, is enjoying the recognition his celebrity status brings him. As Bob Novak said, most Thompson supporters believe that he is qualified for a presidential bid based on his fine work as DA of New York. In other words, he is not known for what he's done, like Rudy, he is known because he's been on TV. So, again, his quick rise to consideration by republican voters should come as no surprise.

But what does come as a surprise to many with an eye on this campaign is Romneys meteoric rise to the top tier of republican candidates. Romney effectively came from zero to being a major contender. That is a higher percentage gain by far than any other candidate. That is what is impressive. What is also impressive is that anyone who spends any time with Mitt is no longer suprised at his success.

A year ago, if you would have asked your friends who Mitt Romney was, I would assume that very few if any would have been able to give you an answer. I know that was true in my case.

A year ago if you were to ask who Fred Thompson was, again, no one would know UNTIL you said, "You know, the Law and Order guy"... then recognition would come.

A year ago if asked about McCain, virtually anyone connected to politics would have been able to tell you almost everything relevant about him.

And with Rudy Guiliani, you could have asked folks in Mongolia who he was, and they could have told you.

So here we are a year later, and the fact that Romney is a clear contender for the republican nomination and one of the very few that anyone believes could beat the democrats this time around (including many that aren't his supporters) is an amazing thing.

That is what polls are really saying, thedude.

And when you say, "ALL THE POLLS"... you obviously missed the polls in the first few primary states who all have Romney as the clear leader... so who cares who is behind McCain?

It's obvious that most of the Republican Party and the country nationally is still polling based on name recognition alone.

But the folks that are going to be voting first, and who pay attention soonest have realized that Romney is the best man for the job.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at August 2, 2007 at 1:56 PM  



Wednesday, April 11, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 1:49 PM | permalink
I just got an email from Howard Dean. I have to give the Dems this. They know how to elicit a reaction among their base and how to capitalize on it. I know that many pundits of late have made beans about the Dems outraising the GOP online. My theory: The Dems have a hot button issue that evokes emotion and they are willing (some would say conniving) to monetize that issue as best they can.

See for yourself.

Right now McCain taking heat from the left for being solid on Iraq. He's almost a lightning rod for the left's pure animus about the war. Why?

Because secretly would love to vote for the guy if he would just denounce Bush like he usually does. Instead he's standing on principle.

Unfortunately for McCain - he's the punching bag - not Romney or Rudy.

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Sunday, February 18, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 2:20 PM | permalink
Romney had a fantastic interview with George on "This Week". Here are some key excerpts. Here Romney fields some tough questions in a lightning fashoin and shows why he knows his stuff. Referring to numerous books including Lawrence Wright's book "The Looming Tower".


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Friday, February 16, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 12:39 PM | permalink
McCain skipping out on IraqI always have to preface any comment I make about McCain with these two statements:

John McCain is a great American.
John McCain is not a great conservative.


Harry Reid has decided to pull a stunt to gather some press airtime over the weekend by scheduling a vote on Iraq on Saturday. Note: this is blatantly politically motivated. That being said... where is John McCain going to be on Saturday? Hazard a guess?

According to ABC here's what the rest of the field is going to be doing:
  • Hillary?: "...had planned to spend a full day in New Hampshire. Instead, she will host a town hall meeting in Dover, N.H., in the morning and then return to Washington to vote."
  • Joe Biden?: "...in Iowa on Friday and will return to Capitol Hill on Saturday. He will head back to Iowa after the vote to attend a dinner in Davenport."
  • Chris Dodd?: "...was supposed to be in South Carolina on Saturday, but his campaign was considering sending a surrogate."
  • Brownback?: "...had planned to be in Florida to attend the National Religious Broadcasters' convention but is cutting short his visit even though he doesn't plan to side with Reid."
  • Barack O?: "... will be able to fit the vote into his campaign schedule."
And how about John McCain? "...he plans to stick to his itinerary of three town hall meetings in Iowa, the early voting state in the primary process."

John will not be voting on the Iraq issue. It's no skin off my back John. Just more grist for my mill. But in all seriousness I wish he would show some muster and be a Republican Senator. Who knows... his vote might make all the difference for a few Senators. (It certainly would help his cause with conservatives)

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Saturday, February 3, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 12:16 PM | permalink
As I mentioned earlier in the week, I had the opportunity to participate in the founding meeting of Women for FUTURE. This group is building numerous facilities around Iraq, providing support for Iraqi families to build up a foundation of education and oragnization, promoting volunteerism and self-reliance to Iraqi communities. The even was held on Capitol hill and attended by numerous officials including Senator Bennett from Utah.


The first clip I want to show you is of Colleen Parkin, who's son was killed in Iraq in a Helicopter accident. Her words should remind all of us why we are in Iraq and why should fight to win. Colleen is introduced by one of the women delegates from Iraq.



Next, my wife and I performed for the event a song called "For Good" about reconcilation and the recognition that lives change other lives.



Lastly, the Iraqi Ambassador to the United States, Samir Sumaidaie, translates for one of the women delegates from Iraq. Her words are right in line with the appreciation of the Iraqi people.

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Friday, January 26, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 11:26 AM | permalink
We mentioned this effort earlier in the week but it bears repeating.

As Gov. Romney declared in Israel earlier this week. The murmurings among lawmakers trying to abandon the cause in Iraq at this stage would be "folly".

In that spirit, we ask that you sign the NRSC pledge

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