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Friday, April 4, 2008
posted by Justin Hart | 9:08 AM | permalink
Matt Lewis points to a Huckabee motive. David Brody has a headache over this thing. But I see another motif at play here.

Am I blowing smoke about the hidden anti-Mormon agenda of many of the signatories who signed onto the God Not Government post?

Well, let's review. Granted, these excerpts don't come anywhere close to equating Mormonism to Homosexuality, but even I was a bit shocked by some of these quotes.

My main point is this: if you want your egregious arguments to hold any water at all... don't include anti-Mormons on your list of adherents.
  • Matt Barber, Policy Director, Concerned Women for America quoted here as helping a reformed homosexual who converted to Mormonism find "scripturally-sound" evangelical churches to attend.
  • Ted Baehr, Author of Culture Wise Family, on the September 11th film: "What [the character of] Brigham Young does in the movie is talk about…that you have to have blood atonement... This is going to be an issue [for Romney]. ”
  • Janet Folger, President Faith2Action, See here: "Romney, as a Mormon, doesn't believe Jesus was God's only Son (Lucifer, they claim, was his 'brother'). Nor does he believe in the virgin birth. Instead, Mormons believe God the Father had physical sex with Mary. The word blasphemy comes to mind. A bit more than a mere 'denominational difference,' don't you think?"
  • Gary Glenn, President AFA, Michigan, played the "religion card" in his GOTV efforts for Huckabee
  • James Hartline, Founder and Publisher, California Christian News: "San Diego Republican Party Hits New Low - Invites Cult Member As Christmas Party Guest Of Honor" - "Mormon politics is more about promoting the economic interests of the Mormon Church and its wealthy members rather than any pseudo Biblical beliefs."
  • Linda Harvey, President Mission America: "He used his Republican and Mormon identity to push through radical policies on gay marriage, abortion and pro-homosexual school programs that Ted Kennedy always dreamed about." - link
  • Gregg Jackson: Writes here in an article entitled: "Is this the end of Evangelicalism in America?": "A cornerstone of the Mormon Church, Grudem writes, is the classic heresy of Saint Paul's day – angel worship. In his book, Grudem insists that an orthodox Christian must practice the theology he reads. So why would he step forward to become part of the Mitt Romney propaganda blitz trying to mislead evangelicals into doing what would shock most evangelicals in American history: elect a Mormon for president? "
  • Peter LaBarbera: "The sponsor of a homosexual-inclusive “hate crimes” bill in Utah is hailing the support of two Mormon-owned media organs, signaling the neutrality of the powerful and socially conservative church on an issue that is seen by many family advocates as the first step in the wider 'gay' agenda."
And I'm only half way through the list. In my mind, many of these people are hiding behind silly political pot-shots because they have theological angst against the Mormon church.

Am I wrong here?

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You are spot on with this one!! What can be done about this obvious religious intolerance toward Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 4, 2008 at 11:07 AM  


No, Justin, you are not wrong. Not at all. Honestly, if these people were pushing a "NO LEIBERMAN FOR VEEP" agenda and the list was full of anti-semites, do you honestly think for one second that the MSM and other wouldn't fly off the handle calling them out on obvious bias? But if it's Mormon bashing, it's totally fine- those Mormons are crazy, everyone knows this, so why not bash them a bit? Honestly, these people disgust me. Scribes, Pharisees, hypocrites!!!!!



Justin,

You may be wrong to say that this is a complete smokescreen for bigotry -- but at the very least you have produced substantial evidence of an anti-Mormon slant in those you have listed, and it becomes very obvious why they have not given him the benefit of the doubt.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 4, 2008 at 12:00 PM  


You are dead-on, my friend, what a bunch of psycho haters. It is a free country, but it's depressingly low-grade.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 4, 2008 at 1:23 PM  


Doug from San Francisco - From what I saw in the primaries, you are hitting the nail on the head. We have more religious bigots than I would have supposed. I guess every church starts out this way but you would think that we have matured beyond what we've seen recently.

I really don't care if Mr. Romney believe in the Man in the Moon so long as his conservative views are in line with mine.

A message to evangelicals - Start practicing tolerance and forgiveness or you will be sitting with the hypocrits some day.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM  


Why is it that anytime someone points out the political expediency of Mitt's position swings, that person is an anti-Mormon bigot? Here in Detroit, we have a corrupt mayor, who claims that "racism" is behind the calls for him to step done (he was just indicted for perjury). My point is that bigotry isn't really the case in either example; it is a smokescreen to distract people from the truth. Or do you deny what this group wrote about Mitt and abortion / gay marriage is true?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 4, 2008 at 2:59 PM  


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By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 4, 2008 at 5:42 PM  


This is all so obvious and laughable by the Huckabee (now Huckabeen) campaign. Their candidate's "Huck-a-boom" didn't happened (thank you Dear God!), so now Huckabeen and his followers are desperately trying to manipulate him to the VP spot. I don't believe McCain would ever be so foolish as to choose the ONLY republican wanna-be VP that is listed as CORRUPT on Judicial Watch’s 2007 list (along with Hillary & Obama). Why would McCain choose Huckabeen with his ethics and bad-judgment problems? McCain's not foolish--the Huckabeen fanatics are wasting their time.

Mitt Romney is an upstanding man of morals and family values. And with his economic expertise, he is the best choice for VP. Our nation needs Mitt Romney!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 4, 2008 at 7:12 PM  


Anonymous, you will find the answer to your question in Kyle's "More illogical claims" post below, if you really care to know. I don't believe that everyone who doesn't support Romney is anti-Mormon, but I believe the people behind this ad sure are.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 4, 2008 at 7:12 PM  


So, what do I believe, the people who protest that Romney was a social liberal, or do I believe what I am seeing of the track records of these people with my own eyes?

For me, the answer is really very simple: This is about hanging a "Mormons need not apply" sign on the Presidency and Vice Presidency.



it is Romney who is dying by his own sword! Mitt was the bigot Governor that tried desperately (in order to appeal to the national conservative base) to strip civil rights away from couples that wanted nothing more than to protect their love and assets. These are the same couple he supported a few years earlier. It is very interesting to see that he is now being prosecuted for who he is. Justice can be a thing of beauty at times.



I love the senorship on this site, if they dont like what you say, it doesnt get posted.



The exit polls speak louder than a few articles and ads. Mitt Romney was the unifying choice of the majority of the Republican Party. The ONLY states to show preference toward Huckabee due to religious prejudice were South Carolina, Arkansas, and Alabama. If you recall, Romney was robbed of his rightful win in West Virginia through one of McCain’s famous “backroom deals" If you only count the Republican votes, or just the conservative votes, or subtract the "third party votes from these open corrupt primaries across the country, Mitt Romney would be our candidate today. The Southern religious prejudice is a paper tiger: Given the choice between a disciple of Rev. Wright, a disciple of Darwin, and a Conservative Mormon Christian, you can be sure SC, AR, and AL, will all support Romney. They will get over their misgivings in a hurry. Look at the exit polls up to and on Super Tuesday. Also, if you are a real Conservative, in the Charlton Heston Style http://fairprimary.org



Assuming your quotes are accurate, no question you've got some of those folks dead to rights making comments obviously critical of the Church.

However...

1. You falsely attributed to Matt Barber a comment made in fact by the LDS convert, as reported -- if you read carefully -- at the very link you yourself provided.

2. Where's any quote by Gary Glenn saying anything negative about the Church? All your link shows is that Glenn urged Huckabee supporters not to call or distribute literature at churches (LDS included) which polls showed were supporting Gov. Romney. That's kind of a no-brainer if you're trying to turn out Huck vote, but it doesn't make somebody anti-Mormon. Unless you've got more evidence than that.

3. Similarly, what's "anti-Mormon" about what Linda Harvey said? It's obviously anti-Romney, but are you seriously suggesting that not supporting Gov. Romney is = being anti-Mormon? I know about half a dozen members of the Church who didn't vote for Gov. Romney. One I know even voted for Huckabee!

4. Likewise with Peter LaBarbara's simply factual citation about the Deseret News and KSL-TV endorsing Utah's "hate crime" bill a few years back, which stirred up a big controversy in the valley. Church HQ was even quoted as slamming the head of Utah Eagle Forum who herself is a a prominent member of the Church. It wasn't pretty, and the bill failed. But what's "anti-Mormon" about simply stating a reported and truthful fact, as LaBarbara did? Are media outlets that at the time reported the exact same thing you attribute to LaBarbara also "anti-Mormon" because they simply reported the news?

5. And likewise, maybe, with the quote you attribute to Ted Baehr. I haven't seen the film he's talking about, so I don't know if President Brigham Young said something about blood atonement or not. But if what Baehr said is true, then what's "anti-Mormon" about him accurately stating that's the case and expressing his opinion that a Hollywood movie about the Church might have political implications for Gov. Romney's campaign. Is is not obvious that discussion of Gov. Romney's faith has indeed had political implications for his campaign?

No doubt whatsoever that some of those signers are clearly anti-Mormon. But my point is, in your zeal to indict all with the signers with the same broad brush, you should have taken greater care not to be guilty of the same reaching of which you accuse them.

The obvious stretches to which you yourself resorted (in my opinion) call into question whether you accurately quote the others for whom you don't provide live links.

But if your quotes on the others are in fact accurate, it certainly proves that SOME of the signers are hostile not just to Gov. Romney but to the Church itself.



Well, considering I'm only sixteen and I'm Mormon, what you believe about us isn't true. Unless you have talked to a Mormon about their beliefs you know nothing about what we believe. We do believe in Jesus Christ it's in our name for pete's sake. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We don't have his name in there for kicks.
We believe in God the Eternal Father and in His Son Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost. I'm not "brain washed" or whatever you may think, I just know what I believe.
Preach and believe what you would like, but don't assume unless you KNOW.

If you're curious go here for the only correct information about us out there: http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e419fb40e21cef00VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD

Thank you for your opinions that only make me grow stronger in what I believe.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at July 3, 2008 at 11:10 AM  



Monday, March 31, 2008
posted by Justin Hart | 8:41 AM | permalink
Here's the setup.

Lowell Brown, the savvy legal eagle over at the Article VI blog, links to this article by Warren Smith. (Lowell and crew are masters at surveying the current intersection of politics and religion. Its an important post which we will discuss at some later date but Smith's claim is the issue at hand.)

In his WorldMag article, Smith alleges that Paul Weyrich (noted conservative Christian leader who endorsed Romney last November) now openly regrets his endorsement. Quoting Weyrich: "Friends, before all of you and before almighty God, I want to say I was wrong." Smith continues:
In a quiet, brief, but passionate speech, Weyrich essentially confessed that he and the other leaders should have backed Huckabee, a candidate who shared their values more fully than any other candidate in a generation. He agreed with Farris that many conservative leaders had blown it. By chasing other candidates with greater visibility, they failed to see what many of their supporters in the trenches saw clearly: Huckabee was their guy.
Lowell thinks Smith is spinning. I'm not convinced. Its difficult for me to claim spin with that direct quote from Weyrich. Still, context is everything.

My sources tell my that Weyrich (like many conservatives) was not a little miffed about Mitt's endorsement of McCain. I understand his sentiment but disagree with his reasoning.

The gist of the meeting, which Smith says took place in early March, lambastes leaders for not getting behind Huck. Its hard to justify this thinking. I could use the same logic in my corner to berate Iowan Evangelicals for not getting behind Mitt (which is the demographic move that started the whole McCain ball rolling after all).

From my perspective Mitt's McCain move was calculated but completely logical. McCain has always been the snubbed candidate from most sides of the conservative playground. But today, he's the only guy left to be picked for the kickball game. With the anti-Bush electorate so vocal, McCain may just be the best guy. This is what Mitt sees and what I hope our readers will see as well.

To wit: conservatives who oppose McCain for political reasons are essentially "kicking against the pricks" - a rough venture when the alternatives are President Clinton or Obama.

Still, Weyrich is expressing a certain bewilderment and understandable angst which many conservative Christians are feeling about McCain. Another source who is deeply connected in Evangelical circles expressed his dismay that McCain isn't reaching out to them.

A third source confirmed this feeling but indicated that its mostly par for the course. "McCain is coming to these conservative events but mostly just to check the box that says he was there. He holds no private meetings, no meet and greets and never lingers to mix with the crowd."

I hope he's wrong. Its going to take more than the facade of placation to placate these masses.

Still, context is everything. While Weyrich in early March was miffed at Mitt I'm told he's also a bit perturbed about Huck's defense of Reverend Wright. What goes around comes around.

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Sorry, but I still hate the Huckster. I am more then likely going to swallow the jagged little McCain pill, but Huck? I bet they are bucking to get Huck as the Veep choice. That would enrage my political sense more than any other combination. And should the Huckster run again in 2012, and all these evangelical leaders endorse him, well then they can all go to heck in a handbasket. I will die before I vote for Huck!



The Huckster effect will be alive and well (and possibly even stronger) in 2012 and 2016. Those evangelical leaders who bravely supported Mitt this time may jump on the the Huckster's bandwagon early next time seeing him as a viable candidate the second time around. There are no guarantees that the vote won't be split even further next time. Given that, it makes it even more important to get Mitt on the ticket as the VP now and to go on to win the WH this time thereby forever putting an end to the Huckster effect (we hope).



Irony, thy name is evangelical Politics...

It is funny that these people are miffed by Mitt's endorsement of McCain when his chance of winning became bleak and almost impossible. It is their voting for Huck in Iowa that directly led to McCain knocking Mitt off of his momentum, which would have given him the endorsement. We all told them this a long time ago, a vote for Huck is a vote for McCain. So they give McCain the nomination and then whine because Romney graciously endorses him? Then they complain that he (McCain) is not giving them enough attention? They made themselves irrelevent by their blind support of Huck because of his religious identity, when in reality, instead of regreting backing Mitt when you could have joind the identity politics bandwagon, He should be regretting not encouraging his fellow evangelical leaders to back Mitt as well. This would have given the nomination to a real conservative. And if Huck is the one who lines up most closely with their values, then I don't like their values! Of course they are not referring to the full spectrum of their values, just a narrow slice of religious values. If those are the most important to them in choosing a president, then further into political irrelevancy they can expect to go.



I see the anger about McCain but many Evangelical leaders sat on their hands and didn't get behind Mitt like Weyrich did. His problem is he should've been more active in his endorsement...giving an endorsement and then doing nothing about it is still nothing.

To say also that you should've backed Huck...hindsight is always 20/20. It takes a really leader to not only endorse but to back your guy to the hilt amongst your people at the time that you decided to do it...

It looks like Weyrich is trying to mend fences with the people who are miffed that he didn't back Gomer - that's all...

By Anonymous Anonymous, at March 31, 2008 at 2:56 PM  


I don't get the reasoning here at all. We couldn't win in Nov. with the evangelical vote alone and that's all the Huckster got for the most part.Wyrich's star has been fading for quite a while anyway.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 1, 2008 at 5:46 AM  


We need Mitt as VP now more than ever at this moment in time.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM  


Only two big things changed:

1. Mitt Romney accepted the results of the Republican primary, dropping out and endorsing the person who had won under the rules that governed the Republican presidential primaries.

2. Mike Huckabee complained that he didnot get conservative endorsements (never mind the fact that he made several campaign statements and had a track record as governor of Arkansas that were to the left of mainstream GOP positions, this included his comments about the Bush Administration's "bunker mentality" and waging class warfare during the campaign. And let's not discuss Huckabee's election-year flip-flop on immigration...).

If Weyrich's flip-flop is due to number one, then he is clearly placing the needs of conservatism over the country, and as such, I now have to question the man's patriotism.

If it is over reason number 2, then Weyrich is little better than a weathervane, blowing whichever way the wind is, and he will turn on a politician at the drop of the hat when he feels he might gain an advantage or if the heat from his supporters is too much - that he is incapable of taking a stand that might be unpopular with his supporters. This makes him demonstrably unreliable, and Mitt Romney should not trust Weyrich any further than he can throw a Nimitz-class carrier.




Monday, November 5, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 6:49 AM | permalink
Just a quick plug for myself (a dubious approach to be sure... but I like the attention).

Over the weekend, American Thinker (Rush Limbaugh's favorite website) published an article which I penned. In it, I note the significant "thaw" that has taken place between Evangelicals and Mormons. Here's a quick excerpt:
In 2004, hundreds of Mormons crowded into the Provo Tabernacle and listened intently as the speaker, who was not a member of the LDS faith, declared: "We have sinned against you."

Was this Bryant Gumbel apologizing for belittling the BYU Cougar's 1984 NCAAF title? Was it Jim McMahon asking forgiveness for consistently sitting on the Wyoming stands for BYU homecoming games? No, it was noted evangelical scholar Richard J. Mouw, President of the Fuller Theological Seminary.

In the rush of news articles handicapping Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney's presidential aspirations is an unnoticed but significant thaw in the troubled relations between Evangelicals and Mormons.
Read the whole thing here.

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Monday, October 22, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 10:00 AM | permalink
None of this information is the campaigns, it is Justin's interpretation of events

Regardless of what you think about "Romney the candidate"... "Romney the campaign" is unmatched in its ability to execute.

Take this last week for example. Think of it in terms of a business case study, outlining the "challenge", proposing a "solution", targeting specific "benefits" and measuring "results".

CHALLENGE: Disolve concerns about Mitt's Mormonism among Conservative Evangelicals.

SOLUTION: Highlight the Governor as the only leading candidate meeting 100% of the SoCon values and win endorsements from leading Evangelicals leading up to the seminal pre-primary "Values Voters" conference.

BENEFITS: Develop day after day endorsements followed by a good showing at the straw poll giving serious momentum to the campaign among Evangelicals and building qualified talking points to address the Mormon question.

EXECUTION PLAN

2 weeks out - Lead up to the conference. Look for "Mormon questions" addressed to Perkins, Bauer, Land and others. Rely on their even-handed past dealings with this issue as a positive sign. (check, check)

1 weeks out - Letter from Mark DeMoss addressed to numerous Evangelical leaders contrasting Romney and Rudy and laying the foundation for a larger swath of backers. (check)

5 days out - First endorsement, ideally, from far extreme of the religious right showing that anyone could endorse Romney (check - Chancellor and Dean of Bob Jones)

4 days out - Letter from James Bopp, Jr. highlighting the growing movement of Evangelicals behind Romney (check)

3 days out - Talking heads start to notice the pattern. Experts concur. (check)

(reach out to blogger base for email-only campaign for the online straw poll)

2 days out - Pull out the big guns. Lengthy, detailed article by new Evangelical endorsement laying the intellectual framework in which Evangelicals can accept a Romney candidacy. (check - Wayne Grudem)

1 day out - Endorsement by an excellent conservative Evangelical coinciding with Romney's speech to the "Values Voters" Conference in DC. (check - Dr. Don Wilton).

Day of straw poll - Final endorsement before the conference ends. This time taken from another campaign. (check - Dr. Willkie founder of a pro-life effort)

Goaline: Place or show in the straw poll to drive some good press. (check - or win it :) )

None of this happens by accident. The plan is laid, the efforts set and the execution is nearly flawless. Classic Team Romney.

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Excellent, Excellent, Excellent Post!

This is why Romney will win -- he has, by far, the most superior organization of all the candidates.

We have an "embarassment of riches" when it comes to candidates as Matthew E. Miller said at www.race42008.com.

What will make the difference?

Organization on the ground.

The candidate who has the best organization as far as grassroots and "boots on the ground" in each State will be the victor.

I see this as being Mitt Romney.

He leaves nothing to chance.

That is one of the reasons I admire him so much.

This is also the reason that I trust him to be the President of the most powerful country in the world.

Mitt Romney - 2008!




Thursday, October 18, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 4:20 PM | permalink
OK. For those of you keeping score here we go again:
  • James Bopp, Jr. comes on early for Romney (a "slam dunk" according to David Brody)
  • Jay Sekulow gives his nod along with other prominent ACLJ activists
  • Mark DeMoss keeps his powder dry and then lets it all out backing Romney
  • More evangelicals begin to warm to Romney
  • Endorsements by Bob Jones folk come on strong
  • Dr. Mohler sets the context
  • And now...
Wayne Grudmen gives a strong endorsement of Romney.

Some key excerpts:
As an evangelical professor of Bible and theology, I have decided to support Mitt Romney for President (even though he is a Mormon) for two old-fashioned reasons: First, he is the best-qualified candidate, and second, he holds moral and political values consistent with those in the Bible.

...

Conservative positions: Romney’s positions on social, economic, and international issues are all soundly conservative. On major issues such as protection of the unborn, a Constitutional amendment to protect marriage, strong national defense and victory against radical Islamic terrorists, securing our border, a signed pledge of no tax increases, promoting school choice, and appointment of Supreme Court justices who will interpret law, not make new law, Romney holds solidly conservative positions. His positions are the ones the majority of evangelicals have supported in the past.

Some people object that Romney has “flip-flopped” on some of these positions. I think that accusation is exaggerated. He hasn’t flip-flopped back and forth, he has simply become more consistently conservative. I think that’s a good thing in a political and media climate that is more and more liberal. (In fact, Ronald Reagan also changed from signing a liberal abortion law as governor of California to being a consistently pro-life president.) Evangelicals have worked for decades to persuade people of the pro-life position, and Romney has been persuaded, and he is strongly on our side on this issue.

What about his religion? Romney is a Mormon, and I strongly disagree with a significant number of Mormon theological beliefs, which I find to be inconsistent with the Bible and with historic Christian teachings. But many Mormon teachings on ethics and values are similar to those in the Bible, and those teachings support Romney’s conservative political values.

Can evangelicals support a candidate who is politically conservative but not an evangelical Christian? Yes, certainly. In fact, it would demonstrate the falsehood of the liberal accusation that evangelicals are just trying to make this a “Christian nation” and only want evangelical Christians in office. For evangelicals to support a Mormon candidate would be similar to supporting a conservative Jewish candidate—someone we don’t consider a Christian but who comes from a religious tradition that believes in absolute moral values very similar to those that Christians learn from the Bible.

....

Or have we come to the point where evangelicals will only vote for people they consider Christians? I hope not, for nothing in the Bible says that people have to be born again Christians before they can be governmental authorities who are used greatly by God to advance his purposes.

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Great post!

Thanks for the infor, Justin!




Monday, March 26, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 7:36 AM | permalink
(UPDATE: SEE APOLOGY TO PHILIP KLEIN HERE)

OK... taking a page from Dean Barnett I'm going to answer the gambit of questions I received from readers, friends and family.

Q. Where is Mitt going to be this week?

This week the focus is simple: fundraising:
  • Mitt starts out the week on Monday in Texas with fundraising events in Dallas an Houston
  • Tuesday, the campaign heads to California (which is proving very generous in their contributions) for fundraisers in Palm Desert and Los Angeles
  • Wednesday the Governor jets across the country for a luncheon in Baton Rouge and northward for a dinner in in Charleston, SC
  • Thursday the Romney camp awakens to the beautiful SC dawn for a luncheon in Greenville
  • Finally, Friday finds Mitt in Palm Beach for the final fundraiser of the 1st Quarter

Q. What's up with the fundraising for the various candidates?

Of course the real buzz around town is the anxious nail biting push for dollar donations which will probably be revealed at the end of the week. While the full reports won't be published by the FEC until April 15th, the campaigns will likely give a good weekend update just in time for the Sunday shows.

So, who will be the winner. I wouldn't count Mitt out but here's the reality of the contest:
  • Rudy is the rock star with wide (but shallow) support across the country
  • McCain is the long-timer maverick, loathed by many in the GOP base, but has built up the best mailing list in the business
  • Romney is the underdog who has hired the A-team but lacks the name recognition, relying instead on the ground game
  • What about the others... If they garner more than a few million each... i would be surprised
Q. OK spill it... What are the numbers?

Despite what McCain wants you to believe the no one (including the Romney camp) is going to raise $30 million. McCain's people are expectations spinners and it simply won't fly. Romney will probably come in under $20 million. McCain will top him and Rudy? Really I have no idea but it could top them both - I dunno.

Q. Did you hear about the Evangelicals for Mitt liars?

Frankly, this is silly. In my mind the folks at EFM have been maligned by Philp Klein and the AmSpec folk (who are inexplicable vehement in their opposition to Mitt Romney). Here's the short version: Nancy French (a native of Tennessee) opined that she thought Thompson was pro-choice in his original incarnation for the Senate. Philip Klein and (see apology here)other people in the blogosphere then accused them of being liars. EFM co-blogger comes to Nancy's defense:
This was, of course, in response to Nancy's very temperate post pointing out several news accounts that either refer to Senator Thompson as pro-choice during his Senate runs--or discuss Senator Thompson calling himself pro-choice. She didn't attack Senator Thompson--she said he'd be a "great candidate"--but she did continue to make the point David and I have also made, namely that the "True Conservative Watch" currently enveloping our movement is a bit much. She simply pointed out that he appears to be just as imperfect as Governor Romney.
David French (Nancy's husband) chimes in with his own response:
There's no doubt that Fred Thompson was less pro-choice than his Democratic opponent in 1994, but there is also little doubt that he was less pro-life than Bill Frist (the other Republican running for Senate at the time). I was practicing law in Nashville, and I have distinct memories of the race because Fred Thompson was the first pro-choice politician I ever voted for. In fact, I can remember having guilty pangs as I pulled the lever--breaking a vow I made in college to never vote for a pro-choice candidate.
Yesterday, I suspect that Philip Klein (who I gather to be Anti-Romney-esque) fed some items into the Prowler Column on Spectator.org. The gist of the article is confusing. They claim:
  • EFM is taking funds from the Romney campaign but isn't
  • Mark DeMoss was the guy who started the EFM website only he didn't.
  • EFM is using Romney research which the Prowler doesn't cite.
  • EFM is attacking Thompson using this research by quoting the opinions of other people?
In short, it's a pathetic attack with little evidence

more to come later today

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Friday, February 23, 2007
posted by Justin Hart | 9:33 AM | permalink
National Religious Broadcasters Convention, February 18, 2007, Orlando
comments by Mark DeMoss


Mark DeMoss, Mitt RomneyLast September, after months of personal research, I sat in the office of a remarkable man. I was meeting, for the first time in person, a 59 year-old man who:
  • Has been married to the same woman, his fist wife, for 37 years
  • Is an amazingly successful businessman, with a long track record of making and managing money, hiring talented people, and solving complex problems
  • Restored integrity, order, and profit to an Olympic Games mired in a bribery scandal and heavy debt
  • Was elected governor of the most liberal state in the nation; and later elected by his 26 fellow Republican colleagues as chairman of the Republican Governor’s Association
  • Defended the Biblical definition of marriage, marriage between a man and a woman, against great opposition
  • Objects to embryonic stem-cell research, even though his wife Ann has multiple sclerosis
  • Believes that life begins at conception and should be protected at all cost
Now, I think most of us in this room would say, “Wow! That’s just the kind of leader I’ve been looking for.” Well, this man, Gov. Mitt Romney, is also a Mormon—which is why I was sitting in his office that September afternoon.

You see, I had been hearing that evangelicals would not support a Mormon for president (even though we’ve worked closely with them for 30 years on a host of issues of importance to us); and that thinking bothered me.

After all, I would not want people to say, “I could never vote for an evangelical—those people are crazy.” I further thought that if one-third of evangelicals saw fit to vote for Bill Clinton—the second time—a Southern Baptist who doesn’t share my values, surely we could consider a Mormon who does share and practice these values.

So, as I think about our country and the next election, I have concluded two things:
  1. I care more that a candidate represents my values, than that he or she shares my faith or theology.
  2. I have an answer to the question, “Could I ever vote for a Mormon?” It depends on who the Mormon is! The question should not be “Could I vote for a Mormon,” but rather, “could I vote for this Mormon.” Or could I vote for that Southern Baptist, or this Methodist, or that Catholic?
After all, there are Mormons Mitt Romney would not vote for; and there are Southern Baptists I would not vote for.

I believe when evaluating a candidate for this important office, we should evaluate the whole of a person’s life—his experience, his behavior, his family, his intellect, his integrity, and his character.

That September day, in the Massachusetts Statehouse, I told Gov. Romney two things: I told him I wanted to help him; and I told him I wasn’t for hire. I was looking for a candidate, not a client.

A month later I was fortunate to spend a day in the governor’s home, getting to know him and his wife better; and I quickly developed a friendship and a conviction that this is a special man and a rare kind of leader.

So I have tried to introduce Gov. Romney, and his wonderful wife Ann, to fellow evangelicals ever since, and I’m honored that they have come to Orlando today to meet with us. I am convinced that if “values voters” are looking for a candidate with real values, you are about to meet the real thing.

So after Jay Sekulow, my co-host for this meeting today, shares a few additional comments, I am proud to join him in introducing my special friends,

Gov. and Mrs. Mitt Romney.

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